Comments on the JoshMeister's Weblog: California Proposition 8: What Is It, and How Does...

Thanks Josh for your well written explanation of P...

2008-10-29T22:30:00.000-07:00

Thanks Josh for your well written explanation of Proposition 8. In addition to your comments and the other posted comments, I'd like to emphasize the problem of allowing judges to legislate from the bench and overturn the results of a legal election. If Proposition 8 does not pass and the California Supreme Court's decision is allowed to stand, then no one's vote, regardless of the issue, will ever be safe. Any law that we vote into existence will always be at risk unless we take a stand against this bizarre system where a few appointed judges' opinions have more power than the will of the people of California. We need to take back our power as citizens of this state and of this nation. Vote yes on Prop 8 and give the power back to the people!

Thank you for writing such an informed article. A...

2008-10-29T08:39:00.000-07:00

Thank you for writing such an informed article. A vote for Proposition 8 is a vote for the protection of our children and religious institutions. I appreciate the research that you did to show how Proposition 8 would affect all people, not just gay people.

Being the mother of two small, innocent children, I strongly disagree with having them taught about homosexual marriage in school while so young and impressionable. Thank you for showing examples that this is already happening.

Concerning our religious institutions, if Prop 8 does not pass, our churches may be forced to either go against their Bible-based definition of marriage of uniting heterosexual couples, or else they may lose their tax-exempt status, which may force many churches to close down. I truly hope that this is not the direction California is heading.

This issue it not about gay rights, since a domestic partnership already has every civil rights that a married couple has. This issue is about protecting rights to traditional marriage, education, and religion.

Proposition 8 is wonderful because it puts this is...

2008-10-29T02:41:00.000-07:00

Proposition 8 is wonderful because it puts this issue right in the hands of the people. Although I disagree with the Supreme Court's ruling, I can't say whether the court is made up of "activist judges" or not. Because of Proposition 8 it doesn't matter. We'll get to realize the will of the people and we will hold responsibility for that choice.

The thing that most disturbs me about the "No on 8" campaign is that they say this issue has nothing to do with schools, then they accept over $1 million in donations from the teachers union and put the California superintendent of schools on their commercials. This should raise all kinds of red flags for parents. You'd better believe there are a number of teachers out there with an agenda who would love to teach your child that gay marriage is okay and is the same thing as marriage between a man and a woman.

Although a handful of wealthy donors have given millions to the "No on 8" campaign, these individuals receive only one vote. I am cautiously optimistic that mainstream California will show up in force at the polls and put this issue to rest again. I feel it is unfortunate that we have to touch the state Constitution to do this, but the court decision was too important to ignore. Please vote Yes on 8.

Josh - Thanks for taking the time to post this.
2008-10-28T21:54:00.001-07:00
Josh - Thanks for taking the time to post this.

I think what everyone needs to understand is that this is not an attack on the gay community. This is standing up for our personal and religious beliefs that we carry in our communities and society. Marriage has and always should be between man and woman. Changing the definition of marriage so a certain group of people get their way is morally wrong.

This is an excellent overview about what Propositi...

2008-10-28T21:54:00.000-07:00

This is an excellent overview about what Proposition 8 is, and what it is not. There is so much distortion on the Internet,that would have people believe that this is a civil rights issue, which it is not.

Opponents of Prop 8, have one agenda... and that, is to gain acceptance by society, when they have clearly chosen an alternative lifestyle.

Prop 8, as you said - is simply intended to restore the traditional definition of marriage, that Californians already voted upon, once before. We would not even need this proposition, if these four liberal activist judges - had not arrogantly overturned the voice of the people.

Everyone of us, should be outraged at how the California Supreme Court has dishonored California citizens. Unfortunately - many are more concerned with a temporary victory, which has snatched a much desired want. If we ignore what these judges have done, we all lose!

Thank you for taking the time, to clearly summarize the truth about Prop 8, and its very honorable purpose.

My support for Prop 8, is a vote to restore the traditional definition of marriage; which is between a man and a woman. It is in no way, a vote against gay people. As has been stated in this post - homosexuals who desire the same rights as married people, may enter into a Civil Union, to acquire the same benefits.

However, to insist on calling a homosexual union - a marriage, as if it were the same thing, is simply unreasonable, to me personally. Because, it is just not.

tDMg

Thanks, Josh. I'm hearing people say this is an "...

2008-10-28T21:18:00.000-07:00

Thanks, Josh. I'm hearing people say this is an "equal protection" issue. But everyone would recognize that all have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex. What's in question is whether one can "marry" someone of the same sex. Why is it an equal protection issue to choose the gender of one's spouse? That presumes that sexual orientation deserves the same protection as race and gender. I'd argue that isn't appropriate. I'm for equal rights, but not rights based on what I say my attractions are. The government has no role in that. Marriage will still be offered, as will civil unions, which the California Supreme Court recognized have the same rights.

thanks for this post.

there is a good disc...

2008-10-28T16:29:00.000-07:00

thanks for this post.

there is a good discussion going on here also. discussing the rights of children (which is why france rejected same-sex marriage)

http://prop8discussion.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/thank-you-france-children-have-a-right-to-a-mom-and-a-dad-merci/